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The new Enterprise. The new movie one is at the top. A photoshoped version is bottom. (Unknown artist). The bottom one more represents the old ship. Why did they have to warp( (excuse the pun) it so? Which one would you like better?
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*Majestic-MSFC Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Really all they needed to do is move the saucer and neck forward on the top one. I feel extending the engineering hull doesn't quite work with the design.
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~Firevalkyrie May 3, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
To be honest, the new version looks better. Even leaving aside that it's a photoshop, the version shown in the photoshop actually is not that good. The worst part to my eye is that it forces the sensor mount to be a structural member for both mounting the sensor AND connecting the primary hull to the secondary, which is Bad. There are a LOT of good reasons why the sensor mount is out ahead of where the primary structural members for the secondary hull probably are. One of those reasons is that the primary structural members carry vibrations, and sensors don't like vibrations. Mount a camera on your car's engine block, start it up, and try to take a picture. You will never take a good picture because the engine's vibrations will be carried through to the camera.

There is a lot of engineering that goes into making shock-absorbing mounts for radars in real warships.

Projecting the nacelle pylons further back is also not the best move, because it disconnects the hull convergence. There is a point where all the diagonal lines in a good starship design generally come together. If the convergence point is inside the secondary hull, and preferably on or close to the centerline of the secondary hull, that's where it should be and the design looks good. If the convergence point is outside the secondary hull, it tends to look not so good (this is why IMO the Excelsior is one of the weakest "hero starship" designs, because it has no actual convergence point).

Photoshop = weak.
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~Balsavor May 3, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Very good points. :)
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*keiku Dec 16, 2008  Professional Interface Designer
I think the new (movie) Enterprise looks funny, especially with those nacelles. They completely messed up the engineering hull.
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~Balsavor Dec 16, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
It's like they crossed the Enterprise with a '57 Cadillac, fins and all.
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~OuterArrowhead Nov 24, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
you know... the nacells, should (and i immagine they will be) lit up at the front, the ship is stationary in space in this pic, none of the ingines are probably online...

i like the new design.
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*Jetfreak74656 Nov 18, 2008
Looks good, thumbs up
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~ariess78 Nov 18, 2008
The photoshoped version. With the saucer section moved forward, it just looks better. No only if they had made the engineering section a little more robust.
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~Balsavor Nov 18, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a pic like that. I'll post it. Look and tell me if you like. I didn't do it (I don't know the creator), but it is a good piece.
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